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		<title>By: peripheral vision blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; new gallery on my site</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-1133</link>
		<dc:creator>peripheral vision blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; new gallery on my site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] added a new gallery to my site. Long-time readers might remember my post about photography and homelessness and postpartum depression, which included a quote from Another Bullshit Night in Suck [...]</description>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t find it incoherent in the least. I thought it all tied together brilliantly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t find it incoherent in the least. I thought it all tied together brilliantly.</p>
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		<title>By: kate w</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>kate w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, thanks for clarifying kgirl. I totally agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, thanks for clarifying kgirl. I totally agree.</p>
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		<title>By: kgirl</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>kgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, there are definitley cultural/social aspects to it - my point is more that the diagnoses are so rampant, in the face of a cultural shift where moms have less family around (hello - I thought it took a village), and the fact that we are less likely to just allow a woman to be emotional/need help/feel overwhelmed after going through the most significant thing a woman can go through. 

I am talking mild stuff though, and more like, you don&#039;t need antibiotics because you have a cold, and you don&#039;t need antidepressants because motherhood is hard. I just think that doctors are way to quick to drug women up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there are definitley cultural/social aspects to it &#8211; my point is more that the diagnoses are so rampant, in the face of a cultural shift where moms have less family around (hello &#8211; I thought it took a village), and the fact that we are less likely to just allow a woman to be emotional/need help/feel overwhelmed after going through the most significant thing a woman can go through. </p>
<p>I am talking mild stuff though, and more like, you don&#8217;t need antibiotics because you have a cold, and you don&#8217;t need antidepressants because motherhood is hard. I just think that doctors are way to quick to drug women up.</p>
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		<title>By: kate w</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>kate w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beck, it wasn&#039;t Children&#039;s Aid who took the woman&#039;s kids away - it was her (ex) husband. He found a way to take advantage of her treatment to deny her access when she came out. The documentary acknowledged that fear of many women, the fear of losing their kids, and a caseworker with Children&#039;s Aid said that removing children is always a last resort, for the sakes of both the kids and the mother, whose PPD would certainly not improve if separated like that.

Kgirl, I was more referring to the experience of PPD than any diagnosis. However, I don&#039;t think the increase in PPD diagnoses is due so much to the medicalization of childbirth as it is due to the nuclear family and loss of communities. My husband and I are both pretty insular. We don&#039;t really know our neighbours, and even if we did, I can&#039;t imagine feeling comfortable or knowing them well enough to ask for help unless they also had young kids - which they don&#039;t. We only have one friend who we would feel comfortable asking for help, and one person or couple just cannot carry all that. And as helpful as my mother was in the early weeks, she lives two hours away from me - not the kind of distance one can be supported by on a day-to-day basis. And while the intensity of those early weeks waned, it never really got easy, not for years. 

This isn&#039;t a complaint - we made our beds and continue to make them every day - more an observation about modern life. Having extended family nearby and close-knit communities reduces PPD.

Thor, I totally agree. (see above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beck, it wasn&#8217;t Children&#8217;s Aid who took the woman&#8217;s kids away &#8211; it was her (ex) husband. He found a way to take advantage of her treatment to deny her access when she came out. The documentary acknowledged that fear of many women, the fear of losing their kids, and a caseworker with Children&#8217;s Aid said that removing children is always a last resort, for the sakes of both the kids and the mother, whose PPD would certainly not improve if separated like that.</p>
<p>Kgirl, I was more referring to the experience of PPD than any diagnosis. However, I don&#8217;t think the increase in PPD diagnoses is due so much to the medicalization of childbirth as it is due to the nuclear family and loss of communities. My husband and I are both pretty insular. We don&#8217;t really know our neighbours, and even if we did, I can&#8217;t imagine feeling comfortable or knowing them well enough to ask for help unless they also had young kids &#8211; which they don&#8217;t. We only have one friend who we would feel comfortable asking for help, and one person or couple just cannot carry all that. And as helpful as my mother was in the early weeks, she lives two hours away from me &#8211; not the kind of distance one can be supported by on a day-to-day basis. And while the intensity of those early weeks waned, it never really got easy, not for years. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a complaint &#8211; we made our beds and continue to make them every day &#8211; more an observation about modern life. Having extended family nearby and close-knit communities reduces PPD.</p>
<p>Thor, I totally agree. (see above)</p>
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		<title>By: kgirl</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>kgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also loved the way this post moved. 
Must look for Pardon My Postpartum - fascinating. I have to admit, I am somebody that generally has little belief in mild ppd diagnoses - not the struggle, just the diagnosis; I have empathy for the mother, just hate one more aspect of the medicalization of childbirth. Have you seen The Business of Being Born by Rikki Lake? Totally awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also loved the way this post moved.<br />
Must look for Pardon My Postpartum &#8211; fascinating. I have to admit, I am somebody that generally has little belief in mild ppd diagnoses &#8211; not the struggle, just the diagnosis; I have empathy for the mother, just hate one more aspect of the medicalization of childbirth. Have you seen The Business of Being Born by Rikki Lake? Totally awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: thordora</title>
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		<dc:creator>thordora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was on the ward a few years back, there were women there, separate from their children, who smelled of a desperation like no other. That need to get better NOW, to be perfect, or seemingly so, so there were no questions, no worries.

It was wrenching to watch, and worse still, horrid to realize it was me as well.

Mood disorder steming from childbirth needs to be accepted as par for the course, and dealt with kindly, not on the same floor as people who think they&#039;re Jesus or who run away if you look at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was on the ward a few years back, there were women there, separate from their children, who smelled of a desperation like no other. That need to get better NOW, to be perfect, or seemingly so, so there were no questions, no worries.</p>
<p>It was wrenching to watch, and worse still, horrid to realize it was me as well.</p>
<p>Mood disorder steming from childbirth needs to be accepted as par for the course, and dealt with kindly, not on the same floor as people who think they&#8217;re Jesus or who run away if you look at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad</title>
		<link>http://peripheralvision.ca/blog/2009/01/22/photography-homelessness-and-postpartum-depression/comment-page-1/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Wow. Wow. 

This post is genius, Kate. Home, homelessness, the womb, outside the womb, boundaries, lack of boundaries and the complex workings of the mind an emotions to process it all. I was spellbound reading this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Wow. Wow. </p>
<p>This post is genius, Kate. Home, homelessness, the womb, outside the womb, boundaries, lack of boundaries and the complex workings of the mind an emotions to process it all. I was spellbound reading this.</p>
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		<title>By: Beck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the reasons I always held off on getting any treatment for my VERY OBVIOUS post-partum depression was the VERY real likelihood that child services might come in and dick around. And the posters tell women, smilingly, that there&#039;s help but EVERY woman I know knows that it comes at what is generally too high a cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons I always held off on getting any treatment for my VERY OBVIOUS post-partum depression was the VERY real likelihood that child services might come in and dick around. And the posters tell women, smilingly, that there&#8217;s help but EVERY woman I know knows that it comes at what is generally too high a cost.</p>
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